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Urban Value Chain Development Online ConferencePart Four Discussion Questions: Synergy

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Summary Discussion Questions:

These questions pertain to the entire paper, but especially
Chapter 4: Challenges in Value Chain Development in Urban Areas

General topic: Seeking Synergy Between Urban and Value Chain Development
1. How might a value-chain development lens help achieve urban development goals? Could it help organize efficient and sustainable delivery of key services like water and sanitation, housing and energy? Could external market linkages bring wealth to communities to support better living conditions? Could it help market and distribute green energy products?

2. What kinds of value chain development opportunities are presented by a deeper understanding of urban issues? Could linking with organizations that represent poor communities help improve governance and regulation of value chains? Could linkages with comprehensive city planning initiatives help mobilize more resources for and improve governance of high potential sectors? Does the provision of housing, infrastructure and human services represent a high potential market for urban microenterprises?

Revised Schedule:

Due to high participation, we are extending the conference with the following schedule:

Part 3: Value Chain Development May 15 – 27

Part 4: Synergy May 27-30

Part 5: The Value Initiative May 30 – June 4

Thanks,
Sonali Chowdhary

15 Comments
synergy and governance
7:44am - May 28, 2008

Hi all-
I’m a bit confused by the title here—Seeking Synergy Between Urban and Value Chain Development. The title is assuming that synergy is weak or nonexistant between urban economic development and value chain development. Yet market systems exist everywhere. I think the question is whether we as pracitioners working in poverty alleviation are identifying the market systems that are operating in an urban environment or just at one factor/component in the market system/value chain.

I would like to respond to parts of question 2: What kinds of value chain development opportunities are presented by a deeper understanding of urban issues? Could linking with organizations that represent poor communities help improve governance and regulation of value chains?

As governance refers to the inter-firm relationships and institutional mechanisms through which non-market co-ordination of activities in the chain is achieved, then we are looking at formal and informal institutions. And institutions are the rules of the game. So if we are going to link with organizations that represent poor communities we need to look at how these communities are socially regulated and how the social regulations enforce the formal regulations of the laws, and standards and licensee and who has access to all these things. If the formal institutions which govern the chain are set up to support a dominant group, then the subordinate group, which is usually the poorer communities, are going to have a difficult time to have more of a voice in the governance system.

How do we change these regulatory frameworks then—and that includes the social regulatory framework? It is interesting when there is an economic shock that sometimes opportunities open up for the groups that traditionally do not benefit equitably from value chain activities. For instance, with the increase in oil prices worldwide, the price of fertilizer is escalating. IDE-India has an interesting project where they have supported lower castes in the production of worms for composting. The input costs are reduced and a space has opened up for an excluded caste to participate and benefit from a value chain activity. Does anyone have any other experiences like this?

A contrary example can be found in urban centres where women are allowed to participate in petty trading but are prohibited to participate as wholesalers because of lack of access to capital and the reproductive responsibilities of staying close to home to care for the children and do the cooking and cleaning. Or another example of gender constraints is women who sell peanuts but do not have access to technology, or the capital to pay for the service, for roasting and shelling which would add value to the product and increase their income levels.

Religion, ethnicity and gender are types of social institutions which are embedded in how markets are regulated and operate. Do people have examples of projects that have taken these institutions into consideration to improve the governance of a chain so that the poor can benefit more from their participation?

Would be so interested in hearing about them.
Cheers
mary

Sonali,

you refer to water, sanitation, construction, and energy.

I am, I must admit, battling to see how the VC approach might be of much help regarding tasks like provision of water and sanitation. My reading of the recent discussion is: privatisation didn’t work in many places, public provision didn’t work for poor communities before that, and now we’re back to square one, where government needs to be persuaded to provide. As far as I can make out, water and sanitation is one of the few natural monopolies left, so it’s difficult to organise it as a market, and thus it’s also difficult to address them through a VC approach.

Obviously, things are profoundly different when we look at construction and energy. Both are organised as markets, and the value chain lens adds value in understanding how they work, and how they can be made to work better for the poor.

For instance, when you look at energy, a value chain perspective can easily be combined with a materials flow perspective, which usually helps to identify inefficient use of materials, in particular biomass, something that can be turned into a business opportunity, in particular for poor communities.

Looking at construction helps to understand where the challenges lie in urban VC development. Compared to agricultural products, where most of the VC work has been done in the past, the urban VCs are more complex by several orders of magnitude. If you look at a modern building, you are looking at something that is made of 10 000 different products. Mapping the value chain that leads to a finished building is, thus, a bit of a challenge. This does not mean, though, that the VC approach does not add value. On the contrary, I was involved in an activity a few years ago where we look exactly at this issue, and the VC perspective helped to identify a number of priority activities that led to significant reduction of wastage. This was based on a rapid appraisal of the value chain, though, not one of those in-depth VC mappings that donor organisations often conduct.

Conclusion: Even in some fundamental urban development issues, a VC perspective and approach can be useful. Moreover, there are lots of opportunities regarding product or service VCs. Urban and peri-urban agriculture has come up often in this online discussion, probably because many VC practitioners have a background in agricultural development. And there definitely is a lot of potential around agricultural products. Beyond that, we could also look at VCs in subsectors like garments (where obviously a huge amount of subcontracting into poor urban communities is going on), or catering, or toy production — basically anything that is labour-intensive while involving activities that are not too knowledge-intensive.

I tend to agree with you
6:45am - May 29, 2008

I tend to agree with you Jorg. It is not the responsbility of development pracitioners to set up systems to govern and allocate public goods. There are 3 sectors in society: public, private and civil society. All three are pillars in society and all have their responsibilities. Why is it that the poor have to take over where the state has failed? And why do we as practitioners play into this? At what point is the state going to be held accountable and the international donors going to change their policies so that they are more accountable as well as they have the means (not only finanical but capacity building) to manage public goods?

An example of a project in the construction industy can be found with World Educaiton and their project Ntinga in South Africa http://www.worlded.co.za/enterprise.htm

This project has been very succesful in tapping into the growth of the sector and linking the poor as supliers.

When we are thinking of VC development in an urban setting, let’s just keep in mind that the VC analysis will reveal the VC which has growth potential for market as well as for including large numbers of the poor as suppliers and consumers. Thus to concur with the above comment, the product/service will be labour intensive. To make comments on a type of VC chain outside of a context kind of indicates that there is a proscribed answer. And we all know that is not the case…. But i think it is safe to say labour-intesive, not knowldge-intensive, market growth potential and improved income levels are characteristics to guide the selection of urban value chains to develop.

cheers
mary

There are, in all likelihood, enormous synergies to be gained from intense interaction between urban development practitioners and VC development practitioners.

Having a background in private sector development, I found the intense interaction I had with urban development practitioners over the past ten years most enriching. They have a deep insight into the features that define urban quality, and that make cities work, that often escape the attention of practitioners from other fields — especially when one is, say, preoccupied with connecting businesses to markets and issues of urban quality appear like a distraction.

At the same time, urban development practitioners are not always aware of the evolution that the whole discussion on private sector development has taken over the past ten or 15 years, especially the improved understanding of market processes and who to make markets work / create effective markets. Urban development practitioners tend to be planners, and their professional socialisation has often been around hierarchies, not markets. Thus, the value chain perspective can add signficant value to discussions on urban development by highlighting how the real economy is effectively organised, and what spatial implications this has.

Synergies
12:44pm - May 28, 2008

Sonali, Permit these thoughts as follow-up to comments by Mary Morgan and Jorg Meyer-Stamer. If poverty is the result of inadequate education, health care, nutrition and human rights, then VC and urban planning constructs are secondary to improving these basic conditions. As victims of misfortune, circumstances or an unjust system, some among the poor will be more ambitious to find remedies to their condition than others and it is market demand near the origins of a supply chain that will ignite the spark of initiative.

Urban development professionals (public sector) and suppliers (private sector) work together in an ideal world to solve local problems. But as we all know the devil is in the details and solutions are driven by the wisdom, dedication and personal synergy of the individuals involved in the intervention process.

But the taxonomy itself does not differ that much from city to city, sector to sector, considering the dynamic between urban development and the entry of pro-poor policies into specific sectoral value chains. I have attached a schema in an attempt to show this graphically. As we search for good and best practices, we must also remember that while thinking globally, acting locally is the work we do to actually elevate people’s lives.

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Synergies
10:18pm - May 28, 2008

Alvin & co
You mention that the taxonomy itself does not vary much from city to city, and you provide a schema to illustrate this.
One of the goals of this program will be to understand how to scale up intiatives to integrate large numbers of the urban poor into effective market systems.
Do you think that a general model of the urban situation can be developed that will assist in scaling of initiatives (either through replication in other places or incorporation of larger numbers of businesses/workers or both)?
It would be interesting to get others thoughts on the scale issue.
Thanks,
LInda

Scalability
7:27am - May 29, 2008

The problem with generalities is that there are infinite exceptions, but its the next level of boxes in the chart that tell the local story. Only a few (like the scrap metal shipyards in Bangladesh) create whole new industries with unintended, unexpected and spinoff good consequences. AGOA textiles tried and failed with China’s entry into the marketplace. It seems as if a thousand opportunities were missed after Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. My organization, Citizens Development Corps, is working with the oil industry in Angola and Sudan, but adding locations, businesses and workers take time. It’s scalable and replicable, but building roads and laying pipe in the bush do not happen quickly.

"It takes time..." - response to Alvin
9:26am - May 29, 2008

Alvin said “My organization, Citizens Development Corps, is working with the oil industry in Angola and Sudan, but adding locations, businesses and workers take time. It’s scalable and replicable, but building roads and laying pipe in the bush do not happen quickly.”
Is that perhaps part of our issue – that in the quest for the silver bullet, we don’t have the patience/resources/time (or perhaps the donors don’t have patience with funds) to take the inevitable time required to effect such change???

Jorge, Linda and Mary,

I agree that there are separate spheres and ED work is not designed to solve
every community need – but on water and sanitation I have found that in many
severely improvised areas (like the Monrovia Slums in Liberia) wat/san is
the responsibility of the government, but they don’t/can’t serve these
populations. Therefore, private sector has stepped in, running for-profit
water taps, moving potable water by water sellers – and all kind of creative
sanitation solutions- some more and some less hygienic :-).

We have worked on/with projects to upgrade these businesses, make the
services more affordable and support employment creation. There have also
been examples where a facilitated partnership between the government (the
public Liberian Water and Sewer Company) and the small-scale businesses have
made service delivery possible and more affordable – where before it was
either prohibitively expensive or non-existent (or done by INGOs in big
water trucks for free.

They can be “temporary solutions” till the public sector gets it’s act
together, but usually service provision in the slums in pretty far down on
the list for a new or recovering government and its public sector services – so honestly – “temporary” is a pretty long time usually.

What do other’s think?
Sarah

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Sarah and Linda; Sorry for
12:47pm - Jun 4, 2008

Sarah and Linda;
Sorry for the delay here in response but I have been shifting back to Canada from the UK. I think the issue around getting MSEs to provide public services like sanitation and water is an excellent example of how we as practitioners are on the ground and see the depserate need of people living in poverty. People are pretty innovative and may start providing the services as a private sector initiative. Yet as you mention Sarah, these services do not meet the hygenic standards necessary for healthy consumption (of the water i mean :)) and MC has provided supports to upgrade the services. When we step in to provide temporary solutions which are usually long term solutions, does this then remove the responsibility from the State and donors? Provision of services and upkeep of infrastructure contributes to an enabling environment for economic development. Thge question then is who is responsible for ensuring there is an enabling environemnt—NGOs or donors asking the State to be accountable? If we wait for the State to do their job, well we will be waiting forever and people need services. So it seems that this is a good case in point of how there has to be more coordination between NGOs doing front line work and donors simultaneously working with State governments to set up and manage public good services because these services require technology and management which is really beyond the scop of MSEs.

Linda when you say that when the government does start to deliver the services then MSEs can be part of the delivery service. Yet does oil cans full of water being delivered unhygenically really ensure a quality service? Wouldn’t this contribute to health problems like carrying water born diseases? MSEs would need capital and equipment to truly support a quality system that would be long term. And coordination between MSEs and government would be necessary. Maybe this is a role that NGOs and donors could facilitate in the long term.

I just get nervouse when we assume that when sanitation/water services are needed it then becomes assumed that MSEs can fill the gap and donors and the state wash their hands of their responsibility and in the end it is the poor who suffer with health problems which affects productivity and quality of life.

mary

For some years now I’ve had the nagging suspicion that the results that can be expected from VC promotion don’t necessarily match with the expectations of donors. Behind this is a fundamental issue regarding developmental interventions.

The Washington consensus and the more recent “Washington confusion” (Rodrik) looked at overall framework conditions. The expectation was that if the overall macroeconomic policy and political-economic environment complied with certain standards, then the invisible hand of the market would do its magic, and dynamic development would happen. This kind of non-selective intervention aimed at a systemic impact, and it often achieved in.However, in his recent papers on industrial policy Dani Rodrik has pointed out why the expectation that growth would naturally follow was not realistic.

Does this mean that one should avoid interventions that aims at improving the generic conditions for economic development? Of course not. What is needed in many countries, and also in specific locations in most countries, is still a change of the overall framework conditions. The WB’s Doing Business reports highlight the fact that many countries are hindering companies much more than they are promoting them. Interventions like VC promotion cannot achieve very much in a context where government is basically obstructing business — and this is something that not only some national governments do, but also many local governments. Changing the framework condition, be it at the national level, be it through a local anti-red tape initiative, continues to be a priority item in many places.

At the same time, selective and targeted interventions such as VC promotion are needed to develop specific opportunities and to address market failure. VC promotion will only occasionally have a systemic impact, for instance when it highlights that, say, export regulations are ridiculous and export infrastructure is dysfunctional, and when government actually does something about it. More often, though, a given VC project will have an impact that is primarily felt in the VC that it addresses. VC promotion does change the world, but it changes it one value chain at a time. And there is nothing wrong about that — in, say, Singapore nobody questions the validity of developmental interventions that address only one specific value chain, like the life science value chain, since this will sustain prosperity in the future. And Singapore is, obviously, a city-state that consistently ranks among the top ten of any country competitiveness index. So they definitely have understood that creating great framework conditions for business is necessary but by far not sufficient to generate prosperity.

At the same time, some donors may not have understood that selective interventions, such as VC projects, are both crucial and have by nature a limited impact.

Potential for Impact / Scale / Effectiveness
2:17pm - May 29, 2008

Hi,
I like the example that Sarah provided regarding private sector delivery of fundamental services when the public sector fails to do so. It is pragmatic – yes the government should do this, but they aren’t. It also illustrates how microenterprises can be utlized this way – so that if and when the government does fund these services, a delivery mechanism has been established. In some ways, that’s almost ideal – if the government is planning solutions, they will tend to think of large top-down models. By provng the efficacy of microenterprise delivery, we have the basis for a model for an efficient city that utilizes its human potential.
I also agree with Jorg’s statement – but with one clarification. In VC development when we use the term ‘systemic’ we are talking about having the view of an entire industry or subsector and not the entire view of the situation in a country. So, definitely, the way you use the term systemic, value chains can be part of and contribute to overall systemic change, but probably one value chain at a time.As practitioners, we can make a decent contribution, but we are part of a much bigger whole and it is good to understand our place within that to be effective.
Very interesting and thought-provoking comments about what is and isn’t possible.
Linda

impact assessment
2:03am - May 30, 2008

Dear all,

Apologies for the late posting. I’ve been traveling and my internet access went out for most of the week.

One of the best ways to learn from past and current programs is finding out what their impact was and what aspects of the program were critical to achieving the impact. But getting an accurate understanding of the impact of a program on poor people is challenging, let alone understanding which aspects of the program were most important in achieving that impact. An even greater challenge is getting figures and information on the poverty reduction results of projects which is comparable, and would then allow us to compare the effectiveness of different approaches.

Of course, impact assessment is challenging in all fields. But urban value chain development may have particular challenges because it is at the intersection of fields and impact on poor people may rely on a number of changes resulting from program activities.

- What are the particular challenges of impact assessment for uban value chain programs? – How have you all tackled these? And what lessons can we draw for effective impact assessment?

It would be great to hear about your experiences on this topic.

Best,

Aly

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I will be travelling until
6:10pm - Nov 14, 2008

I will be travelling until December 6. My e-mail connection will be intermittant. I apologize for any inconvenience. Mary